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[mari4212]

You know, after a few weeks of actually having people show up at the costuming club meeting, I think I'm getting spoiled.

Then again, it might just be me thinking "wait, I specifically arranged for this girl to come over so I could help her, where the heck did she go?"

On the other hand, while I didn't get to have a meeting, I did get a chance to sit out on the porch area of Moore next to the lilac bush and knit for a few minutes in the fresh air, which was lovely, so I guess it all balances out.

Tomorrow, hopefully, I'll get a lot of work done on my paper. Ideally, I'd like it done by Tuesday, so that I could lend one of my books to someone else, who mentioned that it might be useful for her. Of course, now I'm heading out of the fun research/learning portion of it, and I now have to just write it all down.

And in other news, checking into an OTF_wank over modesty is somewhat mind-boggling. Apparently there was a survey done through one of the more fundamentlist/ultra-far-right Christian groups on how the guys perceived modesty/what was considered modest versus immodest. Predictably, there were people who read these guys' comments and were outraged. Me? Well, okay, I see why a lot of the people over at the feminist's community in question were upset/annoyed by the guys' comments, as many of them were just rather out there.

I was just amused that the guys automatically assumed that if a girl were to ask her father or brother about whether what she was wearing was appropriate, that the father or brother would give the answer these guys were angling for. I distinctly recall certain occasions where my oldest sister and I would look at something, turn to our dad, and demand that he tell us he wouldn't let us out of the house in whatever it was. Dad, rather infuriatingly at the time, would always respond that he'd be fine with us wearing it, because he trusted us. Which, yeah, now I appreciate, but it wasn't the answer we were looking for at that particular moment. And a brother? Thomas barely notices what we wear when we sit there and force him to look. Neither one of them would work as the kind of barometer that these guys are apparently expecting. I personally tend to dress somewhat modestly because I like the way the clothes look and feel on me, and because I can do what I need to do in them.

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[petitecrivan.livejournal.com]

Oh, I was going to come today, but I slept in til 1:40 and decided I didn't want to rush and shower. I do want to make that cloak thingy, though I need fabric.

[hermionesviolin.livejournal.com]

That sounds about like my family -- though I don't think it ever occurred to any of us that there should be parent-child consult about clothes. I never felt the need to push limits, and I didn't particularly share my mom's taste in clothes, so I just picked out whatever I wanted and my mom learned to bring a book when she took me shopping since I'm so picky :) My parents did tell me that I could invoke them if I needed an excuse (wanting to leave a party where I felt uncomfortable or whatever) -- though I learned this wouldn't work with close friends who knew my parents trusted me and would basically never forbid me to do anything.

[glacierscout.livejournal.com]

Whatever the actual merits or disadvantages are to any piece of clothing you and your sister chose, I always found that it could fall into one of three classes:

1) something attractive but modestly cut and fashioned;
2) something attractive, but more daringly cut or revealing;
3) something attractive but inappropriate.

It's just that you guys never picked anything out of category 3. Some fathers might mistakenly try to talk you out of category 2, figuring that anything provocative might be too tempting. I always understood that if a girl wanted to attract a guy and lead him on to "inappropriate" behavior, she could do it no matter how conservatively dressed. Since I knew your morals, I knew I had nothing to fear no matter what you wore - and you'd look great dressed a little less modestly than you do.